Formerly the head coach of the New York Jets and Buffalo Bills, Rex Ryan currently spends his days as an NFL analyst for ESPN.

Now, if you’re well-versed in the internet’s conspiracy theories, you may have heard of the one about Ryan’s supposed foot fetish, which he was even previously confronted about during a media session during his Jets days. (His comment then? A “personal matter.”)

A personal matter? Maybe. But that didn’t stop Ryan from cracking jokes when the topic of feet came up during ESPN’s Get Up! show.

Well, if you can’t joke about it, what can you do, right?

Ryan has never been too shy about about his feelings on feet — either that, or he’s just really good at messing with us. When he was coaching with the Bills, he even had a framed photo of feet on his desk. That’s it. That’s the whole photo.

h/t Twitter/GetUpESPN​